He needs no introduction. He’s in 5 Seconds of Summer. And he also has a solo album to talk about. (If you haven’t heard ‘give me a break!’ ft Waterparks, do so immediately.) So he’s joining us on the couch, all on his own for the first time ever, to talk about SIDEQUEST. Except actually this is the second time solo on our couch. Clifford popped in four months ago to talk about the record, and we get into why we’re doing a little reshoot.

In this conversation really runs the gamut: the 29-year-old opens up about his musical insecurities, comparison being the death of creativity, writing with fellow 5SOS bandmate Callum, Awsten from Waterparks, and musical hero-turned-pal Porter Robinson. We also discuss his evolution as a father — he’s about to have baby number two!! — getting together with his wife, adulting, and shifting priorities. And of course the juggle between solo endeavors and 5SOS… and it seems like new music might just be on the way.

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