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It was, oh I don't know, it's got to be close to 30 years ago now.

I was a Times Square Church where I met my wife and this big Jewish guy came to the pulpit

and told us about how he was a drug addict, a rock and roll drummer, and then Jesus came into his

life. And we've been friends ever since. Michael Brown, my friend, welcome.

Great to be with you Eric, thanks for the memories.

You've got a great story which we're not going to get into today.

We've talked about that many times on the program before, but you have a new book out.

And unfortunately it's very important. The book is titled The Silenceing of the Lams,

the ominous rise of cancel culture and how we can overcome it.

So what do you say in the book roughly speaking?

They really is an attempt to shut us up, to silence us, to cancel us, to marginalize us,

and to put us into place where we cannot speak up and get our message out.

When I say us, I mean followers of Jesus with conservative,

biblically based values. I'm not paranoid about this.

In fact, the large part of the book is strategies as to how we can overcome.

But this is real. I mean, we're in a situation today where it's not just might have

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