I knew this is where comedy was.

Goney Carson changed my life twice.

It was just like a dream. It was just like everything I had worked for

and dreamed about has come to fruition.

They said Johnny fell over laughing.

It makes me so happy.

I made him laugh.

But with Johnny, you knew you had a kid audience that you could really go great.

My wife at the curtain all held real groups backstage.

People were running up and she'd go back out.

Oh my God.

Johnny wants you back.

I walked back through the curtain very calm and Johnny, I took about

and Johnny put that little circle up at the finger and I I am Mark Malkoff. Our guest this week is former tonight show starring Johnny Carson, talent

coordinator Michael Brandman. He was with the show in New York. Michael Brandman spoke

to me from Los Angeles, California.

Michael Brandman, thanks for talking with us.

Good morning.

Yeah, I've been really wanting to talk to you

for a while since Barbara Melzer told me about you. How did you wind up working

at the Tonight Show? Well, it's an odd story. I was a theater guy and have been much of my life and the film guy and this was in the early 60s and I the first play I produced in New York was an off-Broadway play an improvisational show that Elaine

May directed that had Peter Boyle and Rennie Santoni and Louise Lasser and I got a call one day from the producer of a local late night talk show a television talk show on ABC, a guy called Rudy Teas, who was producing the Les Crane

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