From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment, the Home Edition. I'm Elvis Mitchell. It's always good to talk to a man who lives his life without remorse. He's starring the

film Without Remorse on Amazon. It's Michael B. Jordan. Michael always good to have you back.

Always, man. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Good. No, no. My pleasure. Because you have a line

early on in this movie that could have been a line in like every other Michael B. Jordan movie the

last few years, which is we served a country that didn't love us back.

Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely a lot in there.

You want me to elaborate on that one?

If you would, yeah, because I think that it's one of these things we talked about the last few things you did when you were last year.

You were here playing

Brian Stevenson talking about that movie, and he could be saying the same thing, Oscar Grant

could be saying the same thing, Eric Kilmonger could be saying the same thing, you know what I mean?

Yeah. You know, you take a character like John Kelly and, you know, and we change the lens

of that through a black man, you know. There's things

that inherently are looked at differently, you know, it's a different tone, you know, there's

the circumstances and perspective changes. So, like, you know, the feeling of that, you know,

and these scenes have to be reflective, you know. So, so in that moment where

Kelly is going through what he's gone through, no spoilers, I guess, on this, but, you know, after,

you know, the tragedy kind of takes place in his life, you know, he feels betrayed. He feels like,

you know, he gave everything and was fighting for something. And now he,

he's on, he's on a mission, you know, and he needs to get some answers. So, you know, I think

he's putting the power back in his hands at a moment. I felt, you know, you know, John feels like

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