Welcome to Dream It Real, a podcast for those who dream, brought to you by Coach.

Thanks for coming back. I'm your host, Heaven Nagatu.

And as you know, Coach and I have been collaborating on this as a part of their Dream at Real initiative, all about supporting the next generation and their dreams for the future.

Each week, we're going to be talking to inspiring guests about how they're making their dreams a reality,

dreams for themselves, their community, and the world.

In this week's episode, we're talking about courage.

For me, one of the best ways to find courage is honestly just seeing it in others.

That was definitely the case speaking with our guest today.

You may know him.

You may not.

You do know him.

Are you plain?

I think courage means to me, you know, the ability to take on something that's complicated and complex and hard.

And knowing that you may or may not figure it out, that you don't know how it's going to end.

You know, to know the road is tough, but to still move forward.

But, okay, let's say you are like the one human on earth who has not heard of Michael

B. Jordan. You may not know this, but he's been working as an actor since 13. He's been in a few

small films you may have heard of, perhaps Black Panther, Creed. Okay, okay. He's also added executive producer to his list of titles,

and he has his own production company, Outlier Society,

which made news after adding inclusion writers to all their projects,

and we're gonna get into all of that.

So somehow he still had time to become the first ever face of coach men's.

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