Michael and Us: We Invented Chill!
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🗓️ 3 January 2024
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
We kick off 2024 by raiding the fridge for some holiday leftovers. It's become an annual tradition on this podcast to try to extract ideology from Tim Allen's "Santa Clause" franchise. With THE SANTA CLAUSE 3: THE ESCAPE CLAUSE (2006), we hit the motherlode.
Michael and Us is a podcast about political cinema and our crumbling world hosted by Will Sloan and Luke Savage.
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, so before we get into anything on the episode, like I'm actually quite, so I, we just watched the Santa Claus 3, and I was looking at the Wikipedia page, you know, I was curious about the details of its making, you know, the burden of dreams like saga behind its traveling from Walt Disney's imagination to the screen. |
| 0:33.0 | So I look on Wikipedia and it says box office, 110 million worldwide. |
| 0:38.0 | Budget, $12 million, and I'm sorry, that can't be possible. So I'm looking at that and I think okay Wikipedia |
| 0:44.9 | Somebody just forgot a zero like it cost 120 million probably and they forgot to put the zero |
| 0:50.3 | Then I go on IMDb also says $12 million and like I'm sorry I |
| 0:55.6 | realize this movie looks kind of cheap but a Disney holiday movie that was |
| 1:00.1 | theatrically released in the year 2006. |
| 1:02.8 | Like Tim Allen doesn't work for less than $12 million |
| 1:05.9 | if he's doing the Santa Claus 3. |
| 1:07.6 | And then falling in a web of confusion and despair |
| 1:11.2 | because when I search Santa Claus 3 budget budget the first thing I find is a |
| 1:14.8 | Reddit thread called how was the budget for Santa Claus 3 only 12 million dollars and |
| 1:19.8 | somebody says according to Wikipedia it was filmed entirely on a sound stage in studio backlot, which severely cuts costs as opposed to filming on location sets were reused. |
| 1:30.0 | Oh, so they didn't literally go to the North Pole, you're saying. Yeah I guess I guess and I get explain I get that |
| 1:37.4 | that saves money but I want a full accounting it can't have cost 12 million |
| 1:41.6 | let's let's contact our friend Eric Lloyd and find out It can't have cost 12 million. That's wrong. |
| 1:43.0 | Let's contact our friend Eric Lloyd and find out. |
| 1:45.0 | I bet he knows. |
| 1:46.0 | Eric Lloyd, the boy from these movies, |
| 1:48.0 | who's a man... |
| 1:49.0 | And Dunstan checks in. |
| 1:50.0 | Yeah. If Eric Lloyd is around, if Tim Allen is around, if Wendy Creuson is listening, anybody involved in this movie. Judge Reinhold, somebody tell me, I want an accounting. |
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