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Michael and Us: The Dirty Trickster

Jacobin Radio

Jacobin

Socialism, History, News, Left, Jacobin, Alternative, Socialist, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

The archetype of the shadowy, Machiavellian political strategist is potent in the popular imagination, and no strategist has leaned into this potency harder than Roger Stone. We look back at one of Trumpworld's wackier characters by watching the Netflix documentary GET ME ROGER STONE (2017) and discuss how he is both a more and less significant figure than he seems. PLUS: Roger Stone's fashion blog!

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, before you begin today's show, just a quick reminder that Michael and us has

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a lot more content available at patreon.com slash Michael and us.

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We post an extra episode there every week, along with bonus content, including, though

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not limited to interviews that I do in my day job.

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A recent highlight being my conversation with the author and science fiction writer Cory

0:25.1

Doctorow, with whom I discussed Bill Gates.

0:28.2

Recent Patreon episodes include an episode on Gates, one about the Silicon Valley Boondoggle

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we work with special guest Wendy Liu, and a crossover episode with Josh Olson and Dave

0:37.5

Anthony of the West Wing Thing podcast to name just a few.

0:41.0

So if you enjoy the free episodes and want to hear more, please consider supporting the

0:44.6

show at patreon.com slash Michael and us.

0:47.7

We're very grateful to be able to partner with Jacob and Radio, and please don't miss

0:51.4

other great podcasts on the Jacob and network podcasts like the vast majority with Michael

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Youtrecht, the dig with Dan Denver, and a world to win with Grace Blakely.

1:00.1

Now without further ado, on with this week's free episode of Michael and us.

1:20.9

Welcome to Michael and us, I'm Will Sloan, here is always with Luke Savage, hey everyone.

1:25.7

I think both of us have had a bit of a long day, haven't we?

1:28.8

But you know, the show must go on.

1:30.6

When I smell the grease paint, when I see the limelight, when I hear the roar of the audience,

1:36.6

what can I say?

1:37.6

I just start dancing, I'm in my element.

1:40.5

Yeah, and we're trying to have a kind of back-to-basics week this week.

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