Michael and Us: Empire Records w/ Meagan Day & Branko Marcetic
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🗓️ 23 February 2023
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
Some topics are too vast, too vital for us to cover on our own. Today, we address one such topic. We invited Jacobin's Meagan Day and Branko Marcetic for a roundtable discussion on EMPIRE RECORDS (1995). We proffer some theories about why this attempt to hit the Gen X zeitgeist resonated more strongly with millennials, and how its depiction of alt-culture proved life-changing for at least one of the panelists.
Our previous symposium on You've Got Mail (1998) - https://soundcloud.com/michael-and-us/176-youve-got-mail-a-michael-us-symposium-w-meagan-day-and-branko-marcetic
Meagan at the Oxford Union - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEnqmgVaOjc
Michael and Us is a podcast about political cinema and our crumbling world hosted by Will Sloan and Luke Savage.
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| 0:00.0 | I think Luke's chopping at the bit to get back into this Russian mod discussion. |
| 0:22.7 | Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, please. |
| 0:24.7 | Maybe because he has something to hide, I don't know. |
| 0:27.8 | Yeah, I can see he's chopping at the bit to exonerate. |
| 0:30.0 | Yeah, maybe he docked for tests too much, don't you guys think? |
| 0:33.5 | A little too eagerly. |
| 0:34.7 | Well, the other thing I also think I was, I've never met Luke Savage. |
| 0:37.2 | I've never actually seen him in the flesh. |
| 0:38.6 | He may well be a boss. |
| 0:40.4 | Well, we have been hearing a lot about this AI technology recently, |
| 0:43.6 | so, you know, you never know. |
| 0:45.2 | But further what you were just saying, Bronco, I mean, the crux of this study that I wrote about |
| 0:50.4 | recently about the influence of Russian bots. |
| 0:53.4 | This is an NYU based study from the Center for Social Media and Politics at NYU. |
| 0:58.9 | And a big part of their analysis was that, you know, insofar as there were, like, |
| 1:04.3 | quote-unquote, Russian bots that were, you know, identifiable and were linked to Russian IP addresses. |
| 1:10.0 | Like, the number of people who actually saw them compared to people who just like watch cable |
| 1:15.2 | news and are exposed to mainstream media is minuscule. |
| 1:18.5 | And then of the people who saw them, the demographic, those most likely to see them were like |
| 1:22.9 | hardcore Donald Trump supporters, like, people who identify, like, very hard as Republicans. |
| 1:28.3 | So, I mean, it's just not tenable as an explanation for why the 2016 election ended as it did. |
| 1:34.9 | But as I discovered in the, like, pretty absurd reaction to that piece, or, you know, |
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