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🗓️ 4 November 2022
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Adam McKay's VICE (2018) sought to give Dick Cheney the full reckoning for his crimes through art that he will never receive in life. Is the film necessary cinematic intervention in the ongoing Cheney reclamation project, or a condescending failure? Your hosts disagree sharply on this cinematic polemic. PLUS: fiery hot takes on Elon Musk's Twitter takeover.
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Michael and Us is a podcast about political cinema and our crumbling world hosted by Will Sloan and Luke Savage.
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| 0:00.0 | We're recording this episode on Halloween by the way and it's going to drop after Halloween |
| 0:26.0 | and just minutes before recording, somebody sent me some of the spooky as news I've seen, |
| 0:31.2 | which is that my favorite character in film history, Jason, from the Friday of the 13th movies, |
| 0:37.4 | Jason. He's back, folks. That's right, Tensletown's original bad boy, Jason, is back on the scene. |
| 0:44.3 | I like how even though you're saying this in your ironic voice, like your lack of enthusiasm shines |
| 0:50.7 | through. Well, you know, the thing is I genuinely do love the Friday the 13th movies. |
| 0:55.4 | I've seen them all. There's a consistency to them. There's a ritualized quality to them |
| 1:01.0 | that I really respect. And I especially like the second half of the series where like the first four |
| 1:06.1 | or five, the first four really kind of set the template. And then after that, the series, |
| 1:11.9 | as it struggles to keep the audience's attention, keeps introducing fun new gimmicks like Jason |
| 1:18.4 | takes Manhattan. There's the one where he goes to space. There's the one where he fights the |
| 1:23.1 | telekinetic girl. There's the one of Jason versus Megalon. Yeah, yeah, all of them. But Jason |
| 1:31.3 | is facing his greatest challenge yet, which is Prestige TV. There's a headline here from Variety, |
| 1:37.4 | Friday the 13th prequel series Crystal Lake from Brian Fuller ordered at peacock. Brian Fuller |
| 1:44.2 | is responsible for such shows as American Gods dead like me pushing daisies and Star Trek Discovery. |
| 1:51.1 | And there's going to be a Friday the 13th prequel series presumably about grief and trauma. |
| 1:57.6 | I have to assume. It's like will the forces of cultural gentrification stop at nothing? Will |
| 2:03.6 | they come for everything? I mean, Friday the 13th, I thought that this was one franchise that we |
| 2:09.2 | could rely on to just consistently deliver, you know, teenagers having sex and getting killed. |
| 2:15.4 | I like that the adjectives you've used to describe it or to praise it, I should say, |
| 2:19.9 | are I think you said that it was it's consistent and it's ritualized, which, you know, |
| 2:24.4 | too, too alternative words to use. There might be repetitive and formulaic, but you seem to be saying |
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