Hi everyone, before we begin today's show, just a quick reminder that Michael and us

has a lot more content available at patreon.com slash Michael and us. We post an extra

episode there every week alongside bonus content including, do not limited to interviews

that I do in my day job, a recent highlight being my conversation with the author and science

fiction writer Corey Doctoro with whom I discussed Bill Gates. Recent Patreon episodes include

one about the film Crumb, about the cartoonist Robert Crumb, and in a fan favorite, we offer

our take on the rap musical about the founding fathers that still extremely popular for some reason.

You'll also get access to our full archive of three years and well over 100 episodes worth

of Patreon content. So, if you enjoy the three episodes and want to hear more, please consider

supporting the show at patreon.com slash Michael and us. We're very grateful to be able to partner

with Jacob and Radio, so please don't miss other great podcasts on the Jacob and Network,

like the just launched Primer, a labor podcast about Amazon hosted by my colleague Alex Press.

Now, without further ado, on with this week's free episode of Michael and us.

Welcome to Michael and us. I'm Will Sloan, here is always with Luke Savage, sitting across from

my good buddy Will Sloan for only the second time now since March 2020. On a recent Patreon

episode, a reunion show, we had our first in-person recording since March of 2020,

and this is the first time we've done that for one of the free-ups, so it's good to be back.

Luke is sharing with me some beautiful, what is this? This is like whiskey, wine. Whiskey

barrel aged red wine, which is something I discovered recently, and it's pretty good. Never

had it before, like it very much. You know, on my way up to your apartment, I was in an elevator

with another person for the first time in a year and a half, and that was crazy. I actually

wasn't quite sure, like, what is proper elevator etiquette right now? Like, should I get on the

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