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Michael and Us: Bernie versus the Space Barons

Jacobin Radio

Jacobin

Socialism, History, News, Left, Jacobin, Alternative, Socialist, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Why has an oligarch like Elon Musk attracted so many admirers? To answer that question, we looked at the short puff-piece documentary THE RISE OF SPACEX: ELON MUSK'S ENGINEERING MASTERPIECE (2020), which presents the story of his outer-space initiatives the way he would like them to be seen. We examine the very real political implications of his "apolitical" tech-guru brand. PLUS: an odd new footnote to Canadian WWII history, the Amazon/MGM deal, and the surprising career trajectory of Tucker Max.

"The Rise of SpaceX: Elon Musk's Engineering Masterpiece" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_T4QayqtI4&ab_channel=ritm1



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0:00.0

The spiritual center of this show is really the mid-2000s, or at least it was at one point.

0:21.0

I'm not sure what the spiritual center really is, but well, Michael Moore, he's still in the title of the show, you know?

0:27.5

He's still our patron saint, and everything kind of comes out through him in circles, you know?

0:33.8

That's how the universe of this podcast has been built, and he resides in the mid-2000s, and so too do we.

0:40.4

Anyway, horribly off track already, but that's a long way of saying that I was thinking about mid-to-late-2000s figure today by the name of Tucker Max,

0:50.5

who some of our younger listeners may not know. That's crazy, isn't it? Like Tucker Max just so dominated culture, at least dominated culture for people 18 to 25 for a couple years, you know, 2007-2008.

1:06.5

Did you ever read Tucker Max?

1:08.5

I can't say I did. You know who he is though, right?

1:11.5

Well, yeah, because you've told me.

1:13.5

Well, Tucker Max was a best-selling author. He had four best-selling books, but the first of them, which was the runaway bestseller, you could get it at every hot topic, you could get it at every urban outfitters,

1:26.5

any one of those clothing stores that had a book section, you would find this one next to Chuck Norris Facts.

1:35.5

You get this at Blue Notes, along with like the same Nirvana or Pink Floyd t-shirt that like every single other kid at your school had.

1:43.5

And it was a collection of blog posts. He started as a blogger, chronicling his sexual misadventures, and it was very broy, it was very fratty.

1:53.5

No.

1:55.5

The pendulum of culture has swung so far since then in such a short amount of time, like when we were older teenagers, it was the era of old school.

2:06.5

It was the era of pickup artists. It was a whole different kind of like fratty, sex-strenched culture.

2:12.5

And Tucker Max was definitely like one of the key guys of that time.

2:17.5

So he would do these blog posts, and I guess he collected them in these books. And I don't know, I didn't particularly like them at the time.

2:25.5

I'm sure I would probably like them even less now. They were just stories of like, and then I brought a chick home, and then we were having sex, and then the dog came in the room.

2:37.5

Or somebody throws up on somebody by accident during the act, or stuff like that, various comical or unpleasant sexual situations.

2:50.5

And he was very much regarded as like a very sexist figure.

2:54.5

This was before men's rights activists, this was before gamer gate, this was before somebody like him would have become a symbol of a different kind of sexism.

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