Michael and Us: Adaptation
Jacobin Radio
Jacobin
4.7 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2024
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Are commercial considerations always doomed to taint art? And are commercial considerations really a taint? We discuss Spike Jonze and Charlie Kaufman's meta-movie ADAPTATION (2002) and the artist/hack dichotomy. PLUS: We mark the passing of the world's most famous minimalist sculptor and murder suspect.
Michael and Us is a podcast about political cinema and our crumbling world hosted by Will Sloan and Luke Savage.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an art attack. |
| 0:02.0 | Art attack. |
| 0:04.0 | This is Art Attack. |
| 0:07.0 | It's attack. It was a notable death last week. |
| 0:15.0 | Carl Andre passed away. |
| 0:18.0 | If anybody knows who Carl Andre is, it's because he killed his wife and got away with it. |
| 0:23.6 | Acquitted, I believe, of the murder of his wife. |
| 0:26.4 | He was considered sort of the OJ of the art world. |
| 0:29.5 | But he was also the pioneer, really, probably the most famous figure associated with minimalist |
| 0:35.2 | sculpture and if you've ever been in like a museum a modern art gallery you'll know a |
| 0:40.7 | certain kind of carolandry piece you go into a room and it's 24 bricks on the ground. |
| 0:45.6 | Or you'll find a bunch of lead squares on the ground or some bales of hay sort of arranged like the sculpture work was purposely not pretty but it was all |
| 0:56.6 | about the way it was laid out and its interaction with the environment and turning the space |
| 1:00.8 | itself into sculpture anyway yeah I mentioned that he killed his wife and got away with it. |
| 1:05.7 | His wife, another artist named Anna Mandietta, |
| 1:09.4 | mysteriously fell from their, you know, 24th floor apartment window and you know the neighbors said they heard her |
| 1:16.2 | scream and yell no don't do it or something like that before and then the cops and his |
| 1:21.0 | defense in court was like oh yeah she was telling me not to make another |
| 1:24.3 | piece of art that's just like a sphere on a stand or something shows how little you know |
| 1:29.3 | he was more about like blocks in a room. |
| 1:33.1 | So even more boring. |
| 1:34.3 | Like brick and you know just the purity of it, you know. |
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