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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne.

For today's podcast, we've got a lecture on MI9 that Helen Fry delivered as part of our virtual lecture series.

Helen has written a new book on the History of the Secret Service, and here she speaks about some of their missions to rescue Allied prisoners of war during World War II. Thank you. Thanks for the warm welcome. Well, I hope you'll enjoy some of the anecdotes and part of this history that I'm going to share with you on MI9. Many of you have probably heard of MI9, some of you may not

and there are times when I give talks and I say

am I nine and I often joke and say yeah well it's six upside down

but of course being serious about MI9

its role within it was a branch of military intelligence

that was established in December

1939 and MI9's role, its brief, was to gain intelligence from prisoners of war.

And very early on in the MI9 diary, it says that one of our most important sources of intelligence could be

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