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MI6 chief warns of war with Russia - are we ready?

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🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

This week, MI6 and the UK military issued a stark warning: Britain is already on the front line against Russia. And Moscow’s tactics – from drone warfare to cyber attacks and sowing disinformation – are growing more sophisticated and aggressive. But is the UK taking the threat seriously enough? A former British army general explains what conflict with Russia would look like and how the UK should prepare.  


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Guest: General Sir Richard Barrons, former Commander of Joint Forces Command.

Host: Manveen Rana. 

Producers: Micaela Arneson and Taryn Siegel. 

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0:00.0

From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:06.1

I'm Manvine Rana.

0:10.6

Let's be in no doubt.

0:13.0

Our world is more dangerous and contested now than it has been for decades.

0:19.0

That was the clear warning from the new head of MI6, Blaze Metro Wellie, on Monday.

0:25.8

It was echoed by a similar assessment from the new head of the armed forces,

0:31.0

Air Chief Marshal Sir Richard Knighton.

0:33.4

We have to prepare to protect ourselves from an array of real physical threats of growing sophistication.

0:39.5

And who's behind those threats? All fingers were pointed in one direction.

0:45.3

I'm going to break with tradition, and I won't give you a global threat tour, but I will focus here on Putin's Russia.

0:53.5

The Russian leadership has made clear that it wishes to challenge, limit, divide and

0:57.9

ultimately destroy NATO.

1:00.7

And as Russia's methods become more sophisticated and aggressive, the UK has to be prepared

1:07.3

to meet the threat, because as General Sir Richard Barron's tells us,

1:11.6

it's us, the British public, who are in the crosshairs.

1:15.6

I would guess most people are listening to this.

1:18.6

This isn't part of how they think about their lives.

1:21.6

And why should they worry?

1:23.6

Well, they should worry because they are actually the target.

1:43.6

The story today is Britain. The story today is Britain prepared for a conflict with Russia?

1:51.3

Richard, would you mind just starting by introducing yourself to our listeners?

2:00.9

So my name is formerly, Sir Richard Barron's. I was a commander of Joint Forces Command

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