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The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

MI360: The Outsiders w/ Shawn O'Malley

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

The Investor's Podcast Network

Education, Investing, Business

4.6592 Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, Patrick Donley (@JPatrickDonley) sits down with Shawn O’Malley, Chief Editor of our newsletter, We Study Markets, to discuss what his main takeaways were from doing a deep dive into The Outsiders by William Thorndike. Learn how CEOs operate like stock investors, why capital allocation is unintuitive for most company leaders, what factors lead to poor capital allocation, how to identify leaders that will be extraordinary capital allocators, which Outsider CEO most stood out to Shawn, how you can apply the lessons in The Outsiders to your own investing, plus so much more! William N. Thorndike is founder and a managing director of Housatonic Partners, a private equity firm. He is a graduate of Harvard College and the Stanford Graduate School of Business. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:36 - How CEOs operate like stock investors 05:01 - Why is capital allocation is unintuitive to most CEOs 09:37 - What factors lead to poor capital allocation by CEOs 11:36 - What is in a CEOs toolkit to allocate capital effectively and how can they be evaluated 16:28 - How to identify extraordinary CEOs that will be great capital allocators 20:18 - How the Outsider’s CEOs were able to resist the institutional imperative  24:29 - Which of the Outsider’s CEOS most stood out to Shawn 29:30 - How Henry Singleton masterfully allocated capital at Teledyne 34:05 - What lessons can be learned from The Outsiders for today’s investor *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Lawrence Cunningham's book, The Essays of Warren Buffett. Benjamin Graham's book, The Intelligent Investor. William Thorndike's book, The Outsiders. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI Connect with Patrick: Twitter | Email Connect with Shawn: Twitter | LinkedIn | Email Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.2

For starters, I think the book is very relevant to any stock investor, obviously looking to identify

0:07.3

the traits of companies with high likelihood of outperforming the market.

0:11.6

I know some people want to hedge management risk by finding businesses so good that anyone can

0:17.0

run them.

0:17.6

But there's also, in my opinion, something to be said about looking for

0:21.4

companies with shareholder focused management. I think that's just going to make everything a lot

0:26.0

easier in the long run when you have management that's working in your favor and not against

0:30.9

you. And after reading it, or hopefully even after just listening to this episode, you should have

0:35.6

some idea of the type of CEO you

0:37.9

should be attracted to as an investor and which ones instead raised red flags for you.

0:45.5

Hey guys, in this week's episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down and talking with

0:49.1

Sean O'Malley, chief editor of our newsletter, We Study Markets, to discuss what his main

0:53.7

takeaways were from doing

0:55.0

a deep dive into the outsiders by William Thorndyke. The book is about eight unconventional

0:59.9

CEOs and their radically rational blueprint for success. You'll learn how CEOs operate like stock

1:05.8

investors, why capital allocation is unintuitive for most company leaders. What factors lead to poor capital

1:12.1

allocation? How to identify leaders that will be extraordinary capital allocators? How you can apply

1:17.6

the lessons in the outsiders to your own investing and a whole lot more. William Thorndyke is

1:22.6

founder and a managing director of Hussetonic Partners, which is a private equity firm. He's a graduate of

1:27.9

Harvard College and the Stanford Graduate School of Business. What stood out the most to me in our

1:32.7

conversation is the importance of not following the herd and doing a zig when everyone else is

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