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The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

MI345: A Decade Outperforming The NASDAQ w/ Brian Stoffel

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

The Investor's Podcast Network

Investing, Education, Business

4.6592 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Kyle Grieve chats with Brian Stofell about the crucial role of being transparent with your track record, how to score anti-fragility, managing risk in a portfolio where evaluation isn’t critical, the interplay of narrative and investor sentiment, how to utilize a reverse DCF to find the market's assumptions on growth, investment lessons from Nassim Nicholas Taleb, how to weight probabilities for analyzing the outcome of a stock, and a whole lot more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 03:12 - The significance of track record in decision-making processes. 03:50 - The crucial role of having "skin in the game" in various ventures. 08:56 - Insights into Brian's transition towards tech-oriented businesses. 09:13 - Why Brian adds a stock at any price, regardless of valuation, if the business is anti-fragile. 09:13 - The importance of free cash flow when looking at loss-making businesses. 14:30 - How Brian enters a position and how he allows it to earn its way to a higher allocation. 19:57 - Exploring the anti-fragility inherent in specific tech sectors. 37:52 - Why switching costs are so easily identifiable. 40:56 - How to use RDCF to help you better understand the assumptions made about a business. 46:22 - The importance of understanding the relationship between narratives and price. And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Buy a copy of The Psychology Of Money here. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI Connect with Kyle: Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Connect with Brian: LinkedIn | Website | Twitter Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:03.1

There's two types of risk.

0:04.2

One type of risk is that I'm significantly overpaying for it, which is basically every day

0:11.7

that you wake up and you don't sell a stock, you're basically buying it, which I think is a

0:16.3

really important idea that a lot of people miss.

0:18.5

They're like, well, yeah, you got in at Shopify at $4 a share,

0:22.9

but what should I do today? And I'm like, look, I'm not selling. So that's the same as buying to me.

0:29.0

And the first risk is that you overpay. And that's what happened to Shopify for me, even though I

0:34.2

wasn't paying, I was paying. The other risk is that I look at a company

0:39.1

and I say, well, it's got a P.E. of 200, I got to sell. And then it just continues to go up and

0:45.4

up and up and up. And the reason for that is that people don't understand what happens to

0:49.9

profits or free cash flows when you're going through operating leverage. I try and assume,

0:55.9

say when I'm looking at CrowdStrike, I try and assume that today they've reached that

1:02.4

free cash flow margin. So I don't have the numbers in front of me, but let's say they've got

1:07.2

$10 billion in sales and they've got a 38% free cash flow margin, then I say,

1:12.4

okay, I'm going to put myself in a world where they have $3.8 billion in free cash flow,

1:18.0

38% margin. How much does that have to grow to justify today's stock price?

1:27.7

Brian Stofel is an investor with one heck of a track record.

1:30.5

From December 31st, 2014 to December 31st, 2023, his portfolio has compounded at 17.7% per annum.

1:39.0

Over the same time period, the S&P 500 has done 11.3%.

1:42.3

The NASDAQ composite index has done 15%. So his strategy has been

1:46.0

crushing the market now for a decade, and it's a lot different than most strategies you'll come

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