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The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

MI340: The Art of Studying Markets w/ Shawn O’Malley and Matthew Gutierrez

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

The Investor's Podcast Network

Education, Investing, Business

4.6592 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this today’s episode, Patrick Donley (@JPatrickDonley) sits down with our very own Shawn O’Malley and Matthew Gutierrez who are the main drivers of our financial newsletter, We Study Markets. You’ll learn what it’s been like creating and writing for We Study Markets, who their biggest influences have been, how they structure their own portfolios, what an average day is like for a newsletter writer, and what future plans they have to offer more value to our readers. Shawn O’Malley is the Chief Editor for WSM and has been working on the newsletter since the very first edition in July of 2022. He graduated magna cum laude from Elon University where he studied finance and entrepreneurship. He’s an integral part of the TIP team and has grown the newsletter to over 30,000 readers. Matthew Gutierrez is a writer and editor that has reported for The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post. He graduated from Syracuse University with degrees in journalism and finance. He has also been critical to the success of the newsletter and has read widely and broadly as he hones the craft of writing.  IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 03:09 - How both Shawn and Matthew got interested in the financial markets. 05:52 - What their first career steps out of college were. 08:32 - What books made the biggest impact on them. 12:09 - How Nassim Taleb’s anti-fragile portfolio is structured. 16:10 - Which investors they admire the most and try to emulate. 18:56 - Why it’s important to stick with an investment strategy during the downturns. 27:30 - What money moves they would encourage beginning investors to make. 29:02 - How Shawn and Matthew invest their own money. 35:23 - What is via negativa and how can you apply it. 44:10 - What it has been like to work at The Investor’s Podcast Network. 50:46 - What it has been like building and growing a newsletter. 51:35 - What a day is like as a newsletter writer. 53:18 - How the newsletter has changed over time. 63:20 - What is We Study Markets Pro and how it can help you. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Recommended book: Incerto by Nicholas Nassim Taleb. Recommended book: The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel. Recommended book: Same as Ever by Morgan Housel. Recommended book: The Joys of Compounding by Gautam Baid. Recommended book: The Snowball by Alice Schroeder. Recommended book: Wherever You Go, There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn. Check out: MI306: Almanacks and Anthologies w/ Eric Jorgensen | YouTube video. Recommended book: The Almanak of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgensen. Recommended book: The Little Book That Beats the Market by Joel Greenblatt. Recommended book: The Warren Buffett Way by Robert Hagstrom. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI Connect with Patrick: Twitter   Connect with Shawn: Website  |  Twitter   Connect with Matthew: Website  | Email Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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You're listening to TIP.

0:02.1

Connecting back to Antifragile. And something that SEMTALET talks about is this concept of via negativa. And so, you know, we often, when we think about whether it's with our health, the relationships, with our money, we think about, you know, how can we add more? And somehow we're going to add something that's going to help us. And it's going to be some new supplement or some vitamin or, you know, we're going to add more exercise into our routine or we're going to add this stock to our portfolio and it's going to dramatically improve things. And the principle of va negativa is first let's focus on what we should avoid. What should we not do? And so, you know, maybe with health, it's like, okay, well, rather than trying to trade to run a marathon, well, let's start with cutting out the junk food or, you know, whatever it is. And literally the V-negative and just removing the things that are weighing on you or killing you or whatever it is. And instantly, you could have order of magnitudes improvement and the structure of your portfolio or your health or whatever it is. Hey, guys, in today's episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down and talking with my good

0:57.0

buddies and colleagues, Sean O'Malley and Matthew Gutierrez, who are the main drivers of our

1:01.6

financial newsletter, we study markets. You'll learn what it's been like, writing and creating

1:06.1

for the newsletter, who their biggest financial influences have been, how they structure their own portfolios,

1:11.8

what an average day is like for a newsletter writer, and what future plans they have to offer

1:16.3

more value to our readers. Sean is the chief editor for We Study Markets, and he's been working

1:21.6

on the newsletter since its inception in July of 2022. He graduated magna Laude from Elon University, where he studied finance and

1:30.3

entrepreneurship. Matthew is a writer and editor that is reported for the New York Times, the Wall

1:35.4

Street Journal, and the Washington Post. He graduated from Syracuse University with degrees in

1:40.2

journalism and finance. These are two super smart guys. I really admire them.

1:45.1

Crafting and creating a daily newsletter is incredibly difficult.

1:49.8

And these guys do a fantastic job putting out We Study Markets,

1:53.1

creating content that is just super applicable and timely and well researched and thoughtful.

1:59.1

Without further delay, let's dive into today's episode

2:02.4

with Shano Malley and Matthew Gutierrez

2:05.2

of our newsletter We Study Markets.

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Celebrating 10 years,

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you are listening to Millennial Investing

2:14.8

by the Investors Podcast Network.

2:17.3

Since 2014, we interviewed

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successful entrepreneurs, business leaders, and investors to help educate and inspire the

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