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The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

MI311: Quantitative Wisdom: Lessons for Qualitative Investors w/ Tobias Carlisle

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

The Investor's Podcast Network

Education, Investing, Business

4.6592 Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Kyle Grieve chats with Tobias Carlisle about the key findings from his book on value and concentrated investing, the power of mean reversion and its role in providing value in undervalued stocks, conclusions from academic research on concentration and diversification, the role of courage in investing, some excellent points on concentration from investing legends like Warren Buffett and John Maynard Keynes, and a whole lot more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 02:57 - What qualitative investors can take away from Quants. 03:13 - Why long-term survivability is underweighted in investing. 29:02 - The importance of being a contrarian with a calculator attached to you. 46:52 - How to control your ego in investing. 54:32 - What the data says about low-quality business in terms of long-term returns. And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Read Tobias’s blog here. Listen to Tobias’s podcast here. Buy a copy of The Acquirer's Multiple: How the Billionaire Contrarians of Deep Value Beat the Market here. Buy a copy of Concentrated Investing: Strategies of the World's Greatest Concentrated Value Investors here. Deep Value: Why Activist Investors and Other Contrarians Battle for Control of Losing Corporations here. Related Episode: Listen to TIP586: Mastermind Q4 2023 w/ Tobias Carlisle and Hari Ramachandra or watch the video. Related Episode: Listen to MI280: Deep Value Investing in 2023 w/ Tobias Carlisle or watch the video. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcasts here. NEW TO THE SHOW? Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI Connect with Kyle: Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Connect with Tobias: Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.7

You're not trying to find the best quality company. You're trying to find the best handicap odds. So you're trying to find the thing that, you know, you go to the racetrack. You're not trying to find the winner. You want to find the show or the place at good value. And that's how, I don't know, I don't want to say that's how professional. And racetrack betters do it. but that's what I would do if I was a professional race trip better.

0:22.4

You're trying to find the best return for the unit of risk that you're taking on or the best return. I think that's right. The best return for the unit of risk that you're taking on. I do think that it's certainly the case that the underlying business can do very well. But as an investor, that's only half of the equation. The other

0:37.7

half is trying to find good value and good risk-adjusted return.

0:44.7

In this episode, I chat with Tobias Carlisle about the key findings from his book on value

0:49.2

in concentrated investing, the power of mean reversion and its role in providing value in

0:53.7

undervalued stocks, conclusions from academic mean reversion and its role in providing value and undervalued

0:54.2

stocks, conclusions from academic research on concentration and diversification, the role

0:59.3

of courage in investing, some excellent points on concentration from investing legends

1:03.8

like Warren Buffett and John Maynard Keynes, and a whole lot more.

1:07.1

I first heard of Tobias Carlisle in 2020 and read his book, The Acquires Multiple, as it came

1:11.5

recommended by many investors that I highly respected. At that point in my investing life, I was looking

1:16.4

closely at value and it helped me to understand the importance that value has in generating

1:20.2

excellent returns. Toby recently came on to the TIP community and did an excellent Q&A with the

1:25.3

community, which helped stoke my interest in learning

1:27.5

more from him about the quantitative side of investing. So I reread the acquires multiple, and then also

1:32.7

checked out concentrated investing. I enjoyed them so much that I decided I wanted to pick his brain

1:37.0

on a few topics about quantitative analysis, portfolio concentration, and a few other key questions

1:41.7

I had after reading his books and listening to him talk with

1:44.2

the community. Concentrated investing was a very informative read and did a great job of looking

1:48.6

at concentrated investors with tenure. He and his co-authors highlighted concentrated investors

1:53.9

who stood the test of time and did a great job of showing the evolution of a few investing

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