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The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

MI307: Unpacking The Money Mind w/ Robert Hagstrom

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

The Investor's Podcast Network

Education, Business, Investing

4.6593 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Kyle Grieve chats with Robert Hagstrom about the benefits of reading fiction for improving your investing process, the best mental models Robert learned from his time working with Bill Miller, the importance of understanding complex adaptive systems for understanding the market, how to use the DCF model according to Buffett and Munger, strategies for using multiple mental models in your day-to-day life to think better, and a whole lot more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 03:48 - The Lessons from 3 of fiction's best detectives that will make you a better investor. 10:16 - Insights from investments in Dell Computer and Amazon. 10:37 - Why you should look at the market through a biological model over a physics-based model. 10:37 - The importance of network economics in a digital age. 26:55 - Ways to improve efficiency from books that you read. 38:10 - Interesting data points on the advantages and disadvantages of a concentrated portfolio. And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Buy a copy of The Warren Buffett Portfolio: Mastering the Power of the Focus Investment Strategy here. Buy a copy of Warren Buffett: Inside the Ultimate Money Mind here. Buy a copy of The Detective And The Investor here. Buy a copy of Investing: The Last Liberal Art here. Buy a copy of The Warren Buffett Way here. Related Episode: Listen to TIP360: Inside The Money Mind Of Warren Buffett w/ Robert Hagstrom, or watch the video. Related Episode: Listen to MI222: How To Invest Like Warren Buffett w/ Robert Hagstrom, or watch the video. NEW TO THE SHOW? Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle’s favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI Connect with Kyle:  Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Connect with Robert: Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.7

Today, around 2003, 2004, two professors from Yale University, Martin Krimmers and Petajusto,

0:09.9

anti-Petegisto, brought out a paper called High Active Share.

0:13.3

High Active Share is now the academic word for focus investing.

0:16.9

You can measure your high active share to the degree that you're different than your

0:20.6

underlying index. If you own everything in the index, your active share is zero degree that you're different than your underlying index.

0:21.7

If you own everything in the index, your active share is zero.

0:24.8

You're no different than market.

0:26.2

If you own 15 companies, 16 companies of different ways, you could have an active share because of your differences in the market of 85, 90, 95% active share.

0:36.0

They then concluded they did the research on all actively traded

0:40.1

portfolios and found out those with high active shares, the most concentrated were the ones

0:44.6

that outperform the market. You had low active share, which is kind of closet indexing. You couldn't

0:50.2

be the market. And then they followed up this study with turnover ratios and found out within the high active share quadrant.

0:57.2

Those that had low turnover strategies actually had the single best performance, just exactly the same portfolio that Warren Buffett does.

1:04.5

So concentrated low turnover portfolios is absolutely 100%, academically settled, no more debate,

1:10.6

the optimal way in which to manage portfolios to generate a return better in the market. is absolutely 100% academically settled, no more to make,

1:14.6

the optimal way in which to manage portfolios to generate a return better in the market.

1:21.9

In this episode, I chat with Robert Hags from about the benefits of reading fiction for improving your investing process,

1:24.1

the best mental models Robert learned from his time working with Bill Miller,

1:28.4

the importance of understanding complex adaptive systems for understanding the market, how to use the discounted

1:32.9

cash flow model according to Buffett and Munger, strategies for using multiple mental models

1:37.5

in your day-to-day life to think better, and a whole lot more.

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