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MI266: Banks on the Run: Insights into the Banking Crisis & the Future of Banking w/ Joseph Wang

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

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Business, Education, Investing

4.6592 Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Rebecca Hotsko talks with Joseph Wang about the ongoing banking crisis, including the reasons behind the failures of Silicon Valley Bank and Credit Suisse, the possibility of further contagion in the industry, and other related topics. Joseph is the CIO at Monetary Macro, and previously a senior trader on the Fed's trading desk.  IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro. 02:50 - An update on the current banking crisis.  06:31 - What caused Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, and Credit Suisse to fail? 15:19 - What warning signs can investors look for to determine a bank is not properly managing their risks?  23:13 - Joseph’s thoughts on whether this contagion is likely to spread and cause other banks to fail.  34:15 - His main take-aways from the recent Fed meeting.  46:52 - How increased regulations could impact bank's profitability going forward.  48:19 - What’s driving the trend of declining deposits? 51:31 - Joseph’s thoughts on what the future of banking looks like, and whether we could see a bankless future or not.  57:03 - Does a “higher for longer” interest rate environment pose a major risk to the banking sector? *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.   BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Check out Joseph’s book. Check out Joseph’s Website. Related Episode: Listen to MI190: Central Banking 101 w/ Joseph Wang, or watch the video. NEW TO THE SHOW? Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle’s favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI Connect with Rebecca: Twitter | Instagram Email: Rebecca@theinvestorspodcast.com Connect with Joseph: Book | Website | Twitter    HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! It takes less than 30 seconds and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it!  Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.5

I think it's difficult to see a bankless future, and that's because banks play a very important

0:08.3

role in the economy by creating money.

0:10.8

I think what's more interesting about what's happening now is that if you are willing to

0:16.3

completely guarantee all deposits in a bank, I think the next step would be some kind of central bank

0:22.0

digital currency where instead of depositing money at a bank that's guaranteed, maybe you just

0:27.5

deposit money directly at the Federal Reserve. And that has tremendous implications because

0:32.2

that would make the government ultimately a major creator of money and they would decide

0:37.4

that who gets money

0:38.3

and who doesn't. And I'd also note that it seems like the banks that I've been going under

0:43.1

are those that have been strongly associated with crypto, like signature bank, like Silvergate,

0:48.4

and so forth. And, you know, I think that would send a strong signal to other banks

0:52.1

to probably not sponsor these activities.

1:04.1

On today's episode, I bring on Joseph Wang, who is the chief investment officer at Monetary Macro,

1:10.4

and previously he was a senior trader for the Federal Reserve. During this episode, Joseph breaks down the crisis the banking sector is

1:12.7

currently facing with the failure of Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, and then Credit

1:17.4

Swiss. He talks about how this happened, what this means for investors and depositors in these

1:22.8

banks, and is this contagion likely to spread to other banks and institutions?

1:28.5

He also shares his key takeaways from the recent Fed meeting, including the measures that

1:33.6

were put in place to save the banking sector and what these new policies could mean for

1:38.4

the bank's future profitability. We also dive into a deeper topic about what the future of banking could look like.

1:45.9

I asked him if we could see a world where there's a bankless future and the role decentralized

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