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The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

MI Rewind: A Rational Approach to Investing w/ Tobias Carlisle

The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network

The Investor's Podcast Network

Business, Education, Investing

4.6592 Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Clay Finck chats with Tobias Carlisle about what led him to becoming a value investor, what mean reversion is and how it relates to his overall investment strategy, how inflation impacts his investment process, what the shiller PE is and why it’s something to be mindful of, what his thoughts are on determining an appropriate discount rate, and much, much more! Tobias Carlisle is the founder of The Acquirer’s Multiple®. He is also the founder of Acquirers Funds® which manages ZIG, the Acquirers Fund, and DEEP, the Roundhill Acquirers Deep Value Fund. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 02:00 - How Tobias ended up becoming a value investor. 07:43 - What investors had a big impact on Tobias’s own development? 12:02 - What mean reversion is from an investment standpoint, and how it relates to his overall investment strategy. 21:44 - What the shiller PE is, and why it is something to be mindful of. 32:20 - How inflation impacts his overall thought process for stock investing. 44:03 - Tobias’s thoughts on an appropriate discount rate, and what discount rate Warren Buffett might be using in his valuation process. 47:19 - The two funds the Acquirer’s Fund manages - ZIG and DEEP. And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Tobias Carlisle’s book The Acquirer’s Multiple. Tobias Carlisle’s book Deep Value. Tobias Carlisle’s book Quantitative Value. Bruce Greenwald’s book Value Investing. Benjamin Graham’s book, The Intelligent Investor. The Acquirer’s Podcast. The Acquirer’s Multiple. The Acquirer’s Fund. Related Episode: Listen to MI025: Deep Value Investing w/ Tobias Carlisle, or watch the video. Related Episode: MI084: Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, And Berkshire Hathaway w/ Adam Mead, or watch the video. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Fiscal.AI HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it!  Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.0

Hey guys, on today's show, I'm re-sharing a favorite episode from the past.

0:07.0

I'd like to do this because we get a lot of new listeners each week, and they will never have heard this excellent episode before.

0:13.0

And even if you've been listening for a while, you may have missed it when it first came out,

0:18.0

or you could at least benefit from reviewing some of this episode's

0:21.5

lessons again and reinforcing your learning.

0:24.2

If you're not interested in episodes from the past, there's no hard feelings at all, and

0:28.7

you can pick up with us again next week for a brand new episode.

0:32.7

Everything going forward is from the original, and I hope you guys enjoy listening to it

0:36.8

as much as I did.

0:38.5

You don't see a P of a shillopee of 40 at a trough. You see a shillopee of 40 like very, very rarely,

0:47.7

very close to the peak. And so the last time we saw a shillopee of 40, it was, I forget exactly,

0:52.3

but it might have been February 2009 and had about

0:54.8

nine or 10 months before we hit 45, just to give you an idea of how fast the market ran up then.

1:00.4

And there's nothing magic about 45 either. The Chinese stock market got to 100 times,

1:06.4

the Japanese stock market got to 100 times.

1:11.8

On today's episode, I sit down to chat with Toby Carlisle.

1:15.3

Toby is the founder of the acquires multiple and the acquires funds, which manages ticker

1:20.0

ZIG and D-E-E-P, Zig and Deep.

1:23.7

Toby has extensive experience in investment management, business valuation, public company governance,

1:29.0

and corporate law, and he's also the author of a number of books, including the acquirers

1:33.1

multiple and deep value. Toby is also a part of the mastermind group on TIP's flagship show

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