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Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

MGH & Studs Terkel: Episode 1: Christopher Isherwood

Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Making Gay History

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4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Author Christopher Isherwood left England for Germany in 1929. His stories about his years there inspired the musical "Cabaret," which shaped the image of decadent interwar Berlin in the popular imagination. But as he told Studs Terkel in this 1977 interview, to him, Berlin meant, above all, boys. Visit our episode webpage for background information, archival photos, and other resources. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join our ⁠Patreon community⁠. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I history

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Eric here

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A few months ago we launched Making Gay History's Patreon channel

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a place where we're sharing new video interviews

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Never Before Heard Clips from my archive

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that didn't make it into the episodes and more.

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If you're not a member of our Patreon community yet, I hope you'll join today.

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Just $5 a month gets you access to these Making Gay History extras, and you'll support us as we work to bring LGBTQ history to life

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through the voices of the people who lived it.

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Find out more at Patreon.com slash Making Gay History. or go to making gay history

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and click on the link in our home page banner and thank you so much. You're going to. I'm Eric Marcus and this is making gay history.

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This season we're reaching beyond my own collection of interviews to bring you voices from the Studs-Tircle Radio Archive.

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The Archive holds more than 5,000 programs that the pioneering oral historian and broadcast legend recorded for W.F.M.T. Radio in Chicago

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between 1952 and 1997.

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If Interwar Berlin conjures images of

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decadence and racing nightclubs, that's partly Christopher Ishewood's doing.

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His short novel, Goodbye to Berlin, inspired Cabaret, the Enduring Stage Musical and 1972 movie adaptation. My grandmother actually took me to

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see the film when it first came out. She was mortified by the sexual

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undercurrents and what she'd exposed me to, she didn't have to worry.

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I just liked the music and didn't pick up one bit on the homosexual, bisexual, or plain old sexual

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storylines.

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Christopher Isherwood was born in England in

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