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Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

MFP 283: Marriage, Divorce, and Hope

Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

Mike and Alicia Hernon : Catholic Marriage Parent and Family

Parenting, Parent, Podcast, Marriage, Religion & Spirituality, Catholic, Christianity, Kids & Family, Family

5739 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

“We can only see our spouse clearly when we look at Jesus first.” - Dan Lawson

 

Summary

In this podcast, we tackle some hard issues in marriage.  What makes couples believe that they need to get divorced?  Why is it essential for couples to have a vision for their individual lives and for their marriage?  What is the pattern in successful marriages that we can emulate?  We even talk about what to say to a person who tells you they are getting a divorce - a very difficult and sensitive topic, but one that we have to discuss.  Dan Lawson is a Catholic therapist who takes a solution-focused approach with his clients, as opposed to “problem-focused” approach.  This means that instead of looking only at what is going wrong in a relationship, he asks questions and guides clients to look at what is going right.  This hopeful approach helps spouses to encounter their own goodness which is where you need to start to create a pattern of mutual admiration, one of the hallmarks of a successful marriage.  Listen into this essential conversation! 

 

Key Takeaways

  • Divorce is a sin against hope.  It says “I can’t change.  They can’t change.”  

  • The goal of life is not the perfect marriage, the goal is holiness. We need to start first by looking at Jesus and pursuing holiness in our own lives.  Then our marriage can improve. 

  • It is essential that each of us look first at what we are doing right in our marriages and in our lives.  When we can see and affirm that, then we can do more of that and “starve” out the negativity.

  • Every person needs to ask themselves the question, “Who do I want to be at the end of my life?”  We need to have a vision for our lives and live that way in our marriages.

  • Establishing a pattern of admiration and trust is key to building a life-long, life-giving marriage. Most spouses struggle to communicate their needs and their feelings. 

 

Couple Discussion Questions

  • What is my vision for my life?  Who do I want to be at the end of my life? 

  • How has my spouse loved me this year?  What are some of our greatest accomplishments together?

  • “The goal of life is not the perfect marriage, the goal is holiness”  What are my thoughts on this?

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Family, all in this together.

0:08.2

Family, we're taking a chance.

0:10.8

Family, like birds of a feather.

0:13.3

Family, get off my shoes and dance.

0:15.4

Hey, we are Mike and Alicia Hernin.

0:17.4

We have 10 kids and grandkids too, and we are here for every parent. Because we are on a

0:22.2

mission to empower moms and dads to embrace their sacred calling. So join the conversation.

0:28.0

Welcome to the program. We're so glad you joined us. We are, at least we're recording this right now and we're coming into and releasing this

0:40.7

at the beginning of May.

0:42.0

So it's pre, it's like, is it, I guess it's still mid-spring.

0:47.2

And I think in the Easter season, which I think is actually really important as well.

0:51.6

Okay.

0:51.8

Those of you are doing Cana 90, you're going to be getting ready to look at your family,

0:56.4

the giftedness of your family and seeing how coming up to Pentecost,

1:02.2

you can be open to the Holy Spirit and showing you that.

1:04.8

So that's something that I know that there is hundreds of,

1:07.9

hundreds of families, if not a little over a thousand.

1:10.3

It's still doing that, which is really exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, hundreds of families, if not a little over 1,000. Still doing that, which is really exciting.

1:12.4

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:13.5

And we're coming up to a fun time of summer, right?

1:19.4

Oh, you know what?

1:20.5

Eucharistic Congress.

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