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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Mexico Fuels the Humanitarian Crisis on the Border

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

To understand what’s happening on the border, you have to look at the policies and leaders on both sides of it. So, how has Mexico, under its new president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, changed its approach to refugees and migrants fleeing north? And how has the Mexican president changed, himself?

Guest: León Krauze, columnist for Slate, co-host of Trumpcast, and news anchor for Univision.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Whenever I see a report about immigration these days, I keep hearing this phrase, breaking point.

0:10.9

Meanwhile, the southern border is already at a breaking point.

0:14.3

You have heard.

0:14.8

And they said the agency has, quote, arrived at the breaking point.

0:17.3

We have a port that is stretched to a breaking point. Sometimes this idea,

0:23.5

this breaking point, it's illustrated by these terrible images, pictures of detained families, kept

0:30.1

behind some fencing under a bridge in El Paso, Texas. But it turns out this breaking point,

0:36.7

it looks remarkably similar on both sides of the border.

0:41.1

Well, I visited Tijuana when the caravan crisis exploded, and what I found was tragic.

0:52.2

Leanne Krausa writes for Slate, hosts Trumpcast, and he grew up in Mexico.

0:56.9

People were gathered at this sports complex just a few feet from the border,

1:01.7

within a small baseball field that just a couple of weeks before was being used for Little League

1:07.6

baseball.

1:09.0

Leon shot some video on his cell phone while he was in Tijuana.

1:12.4

Tent after tent, some of them plop down in the middle of a playground.

1:17.0

Hello, my gosh, I'm in the center of the caravan migrant in Tijuana.

1:23.5

There were probably 5,000 people gathered.

1:27.0

They were using portable toilets lining the outfield fence with makeshift showers.

1:32.3

The stench was unbearable.

1:34.3

People were sleeping under makeshift tents.

1:38.3

People in Tijuana have moved to a slightly larger place, indoors,

1:43.3

but they still are living in very difficult conditions.

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