When I came on the case, Kiki Kamehana had been kidnapped and tortured by the drug lords because he had caused him great losses in seizing 10,000 tons of marijuana in Chihuahua, Mexico.

At the very beginning, I started to think something's wrong here.

In 89, they sign you to go investigate what really happened with Kiki Kameh and those that assigned you was the DEA.

Why was Kiki blindfolded and why was a tape recorded?

He says you don't know what you cut yourself into.

We killed he Kaganano.

I said, what do you mean we?

You don't see this cartel model slowing down for decades.

The women were raped. There was three babies left in baby chairs and they

led fire to the cars and burnt those babies to death. Why were you not afraid of them?

I had a reputation of a badass. When the cartel wants to kill

somebody, they machine got him down wherever he's out. You're saying the Mexican

government is supporting several of these cartels. They have the back end of

the government.

Totally the CIA is inundating our inner cities with cocaine.

So who is the person that actually killed Kiki?

Did you ever get a chance to meet him face to face?

No, but I would love to. You would love to meet him.

I probably gave him one beating for Kiki Kamehana. Look if you've been following vitamin for a while you know we've had a lot of different kinds of guests

whether it's mobsters from mob family Sammy a lot of folks from that end we've had

Steve Murphy and have Pena, who the documentary,

the series, Narkos on Netflix. And we've talked about a lot of different topics.

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