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Jamie and John here with a wild one. I can't count how many times we've said this over the years John, but how have we not talked about this case yet?

Dude, I really don't know. I don't have a great answer for you because this one is wild.

And I don't know. like he could have went forever if he hadn't have made a couple of mistakes.

So we'll talk more about that.

I don't want to give too much away.

Yeah, I think there are some elements of it being graphic, but we're not going to dig too deep into those, so maybe that's why we have held off, but man, this is a strong episode, a strong case, and I'm excited to get to it.

Before that I need to give thanks to a couple of folks.

This is from Mildred's Mary.

The title is Classy.

It's a five-star review over an Apple podcast is well done and likable hosts as well.

This is from Margot 91.

The host do a really good job telling the story, but still be respectful toward the victims.

Also, us social workers have to support other social workers.

I can't count the number of, I'm counting a lot today for some reason,

of social workers that listen and reach out to us because that's what you do for a day job.

It is my day job and I mean you're in that world too. You're an adoptive parent and God knows I can't say how much I appreciate you and folks like you.

Thanks man. Yeah. Appreciate all that community and I think that's I don't know the same issues in society are what drive us to talk about these and

the contribute to a lot of the perpetrators that we talk about.

Appreciate the ratings and reviews and I want to say thank you to some folks who joined us over on Patreon

Gary joined us at the ten dollar a month level but took advantage of the 15% discount so Gary thank you so much at that level

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