You created everything. Look for the powerful being you are. You did these things. But now you're in a human body. You forget the power you have. What you do is what the whole universe is doing at the place you call here and now.

You are something the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is something that the whole ocean is doing.

You're doing it.

Doing what?

Using your imagination.

Welcome to Metamistics, where you don't know what you don't know.

My name's Jonathan.

I'm Sean.

And today we have a very, very fascinating guest.

Welcome to the show Mario of Symbolic Studies.

Hey, hey, thank you so much for having me, man.

Hey, man, we are just so fascinated by all of your work and all of your research. I mean, the way that you're able to break down everything symbolically and, you know, almost

looking at it through, I mean, actually, probably really looking

at it through like an occult lens, which that's right up our alley, baby. We want to know all of

the symbolism and really try and understand it. And you know, this is something that like,

it bothers me when people are like, oh yeah, those people 1500, 2,000 years

ago, 3,000 years ago, they were just dumber or, you know what I mean? It's like, man, we,

I firmly believe that like humanity is devolving from that, right? Oh, 100%. Yeah, exactly. No,

I'm of the same opinion. And there's a lot of

good reason to believe that that's the case. And my type of symbolism, like the school I kind of found

myself involved in, some people refer to it as traditionalism or perennialism. And they give a lot of

credit to, you know, older civilizations and what they

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