Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth: Our Path To Frontier AI, Renting Models, Consumer AI's Struggles

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Alex Kantrowitz

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4.7 • 606 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Andrew "Boz" Bosworth is the chief technology officer of Meta. Bosworth joins Big Technology to discuss why Meta fell behind in the frontier AI race and how it plans to turn its models, products, and distribution into an advantage. Tune in to hear his candid explanation of what went wrong with Llama, why the best AI products will use multiple models, and what it will take for consumer agents to break through. We also cover Meta’s AI glasses, the future of augmented reality, employee tracking and training programs, AI companions, and the painful process of adapting a company to a technological revolution. Hit play for a revealing conversation about Meta’s AI comeback and the products that could shape how we interact with computers. --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Watch the full documentary here: https://www.gravitee.io/ai-agent-documentary Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack + Discord? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Metachief Technology Officer Andrew Bosworth joins us to talk about the company's AI efforts
0:04.5	and why it's building its own new AI glasses.
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0:41.5	Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for Cool-Headed and NUance Conversation of the Tech
0:45.8	World and Beyond.
0:46.9	We have a great show for you today.
0:48.0	We're joined today by Meta Chief Technology Officer Andrew Bosworth, who's going to talk
0:52.1	to us all about the company's AI efforts, its new
0:55.0	AI glasses, the company's culture, and some big thoughts at the end.
0:59.0	Boss, great to see you. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. We were just talking before
1:04.0	we started rolling about what a crazy moment it is in the tech world. We haven't seen progress
1:10.0	like this as far as I can remember. The core part of it is the AI model. The AI model underpins everything without a working AI model or a leading AI model. It's tough to build. The theory for a long time was that to build a great AI model, you needed a ton of compute
1:31.8	and great researchers to work on the algorithm.
1:35.5	Meta has a ton of compute and a team of the best researchers to work on the algorithm.
1:41.0	But the leading AI model hasn't materialized yet. So can you talk a little bit
1:46.1	about what you've learned there and whether that core assumption about what it takes to make
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