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Hello and welcome to the Verge House, the flagship podcast of Mark Zuckerberg and you on Musk lighting and engage.

The exclusive team covering it.

Alex Heath broke the story.

Yeah.

That's fine. I'm proud of him. He's a great reporter.

Not only did Alex Heath break this story, I think Alex Heath like wielded into existence.

That's the problem really is that Alex is goading it into reality.

And that's fine. And we can talk about it.

It appears Mark Zuckerberg really wants to do this.

He should.

And I feel that we should be very proud of ourselves as the Verge is the journalistic institution that we have become.

And also deeply extremely ashamed that this is happening on our watch.

That feels right.

Here's the story. I'm your friend Neely.

Alex Kranz is here.

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