Before this BBC podcast kicks off, I'd like to tell you about some others you might enjoy.

My name's Will Wilkin and I Commission Music Podcast for the BBC.

It's a really cool job, but every day we get to tell the incredible stories behind songs, moments and movements,

stories of struggle and success, rises and falls, the funny, the ridiculous.

And the BBC's position at the heart of British music means we can tell those stories like no one else.

We were, are and always will be right there at the center of the narrative.

So whether you want an insightful take on music right now or a nostalgic deep dive into some of the most famous

moments in music check out the music podcasts on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds music radio podcasts.

Five Lives Rugby Union Weekly.

Right, Christoph!

Look at us back on the sofa. Good isn't it? Yeah, it's nice. I mean, I thought it might be a paint job or something, but it's not nothing.

He has actually put the cameras out which he normally doesn't do.

No he doesn't.

He's got no faith in us delivering any good social media content.

He just doesn't bother filming it.

He's clearly got a bigger thing this afternoon she has to test everything.

Yeah it's Josh for a week so he's got all his proper kit that's packed away.

Anyway we've a big I mean it's big guess time last week we had here we have Cheka

and Christian Wade Fur Furbank, but this is Marcus Smith Penn

Oh but now we've managed to track down one of the biggest hottest properties

the English game in the moment, podcaster, author, youtuber.

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