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What happens when an outspoken critic of the technology industry finds herself at the helm

of one of the largest messaging apps in the world? Meredith Whitaker made her name as one of the tech industry's

strongest internal critics, helping lead the worker uprising at Google, founding an institute

to rethink the ethics of AI and promoting a platform for a real progressive politics and technology.

Now she is the president of Signal, the organization that builds and runs the app of the same name,

which is known for its serious dedication to privacy.

We'll talk with Whitaker about this moment in tech, if privacy still matters,

and what she can do to help Signal prosper despite its big tech competition.

That's all coming up next.

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