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particularly useful tool in the era of coronavirus. And I'm very excited to have a returning guest. I think this is his third appearance, and he's going to do a lot of the talking because as you can tell I'm still losing my voice. We have

Ross Dalfitt from the New York Times and the Film Critic of National Review and the author of the Decadent Society, which I don't have in front of me. What was the subtitle? How we became the victims of our own success.

There you go. So hot Ross, welcome back. Now we were talking in the the the pregame show. You know, it's sort of like in the color of money in the practice room where all the real money is.

You were saying you were giving me the vibe of a certain amount of Corona virus dread. I got the. Are you where are you on the zero to 10 scale?

10 being horde toilet paper and write it out until.

So I've been I mean, I've been a nine for a while.

But it's a it's all a relative scale, right? So I was, you know, I was an early adopter of coronavirus panic.

Without it. I've been a germafo for years. Yeah, I mean, I was I was born and raised to germafo. No, I'm actually not at all a germafo.

Or I've never been before now. This is the first time that I've ever used Puril more than once every six months or something. So it's a new experience.

But no, I mean, I followed it, you know, I followed it in China and or from here reading about China and for a while, it just seemed like it was pretty obvious that it was going to come to other countries and it was going to be bad.

And that we weren't prepared for it. So that's been my basic view all along.

And that obviously puts me more at the alarmist end of the spectrum. And I now that it has come here, I am in the sort of pro draconian measures camp.

And in my own life, this is I'm here visiting with you as part of, you know, the a leg of my book tour.

But I think like like a presidential campaign that hasn't won enough primaries. My book tour will soon be suspended. And I will retreat to our fortress of solitude and new Haven with the toilet paper.

And then and we have I mean, we do have like shelves in the basement with beans and rice and all the fixings.

But the only thing I love those shelves because of corona though, you were sort of had a prepper thing going before that. Yes or no?

No, no, no, no. This is this is all a new experience for me. I'm new to Pirell. I'm new to prepping. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm asking people for advice. I'm I'm just learning, you know, I'm learning what what it means to prep.

No, this it's just this in particular. And you know, there's probably my wife is seven and a half months pregnant. I'm sure there's some sort of like, you know, defend the cubs.

Yeah.

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