Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday October 11th

2021 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria and as always each week I do want to thank those of you who continue to

support the show. Remember TalkNurdy is and since the beginning in all the way

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Gabrielle, Gerelle Hermio Gonzalez, Brian Holden, Christopher Pitts, David J. E. Smith,

June Separa, Orica Hagman, and Robert Christ. Thank you all so much.

All right, let's talk about what we have on deck for you this week.

I had the opportunity to sit down virtually, still not sitting down in person person with Dr. Andy Norman. Now, Andy is a philosopher. He directs

the Humanism Initiative at Carnegie Mellon University.

He's also the founder of the Cognitive Immunology Research Collaborative.

And what that is is sort of explained and encapsulated within his new book.

It's called mental immunity, infectious ideas, mind parasites, and the search for a better way to think.

So without any further ado, we are going to talk all about

the antidote, disinformation, propaganda, division, pseudoscience, post-truth, non-truth,

conspiracy theories, all that jazz. How can we develop immunity to bad ideas?

Here with some answers for us is Dr. Andy Norman.

Well Andy, thank you so much for joining me today.

That's a pleasure to be here, Kara, thank you.

All right, so I am excited to talk about your new book, Mental Immunity, Infectious

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