So, Berto, have you noticed in the news and in people talking that they sometimes will talk about everyone who's mentally ill is going to commit a crime or violent crime or something?

Have you ever encountered this notion in our society?

Oh, yes.

I mean, ever since I can remember, more so when I was, I mean, I noticed that even more

when I was part of the problem, I guess, because growing up, even though my dad was a psychiatrist,

even though I was around terminology and things, I think just instinctually, everything on TV, movies, common conversation, if you hear

the words like, oh, mentally unstable, mentally ill, mentally challenged, whatever, there

were these associations with like, uh-oh, that could be bad news.

Are they going to stab someone? Are they going to go crazy? Are they going to could be bad news. Are they going to stab someone?

Are they going to go crazy?

Are they going to commit, you know, are they going to hit someone?

And I think movies and shows, like show that a lot.

Like what kind of movies?

Well, like I'm thinking of like crime shows or just maybe I don't, actually now that I think about it, maybe it was more a phenomenon

like in the 80s and the 90s, but I remember one perennial example was of mice and men.

And I remember reading the book and watching it in sophomore year of high school.

And you know, Lenny was slow and so, of course, he killed.

And it's like, well, that makes sense because he is mentally handicapped.

So, of course, he's probably super strong and can kill easily and doesn't know his own

strength and doesn't know the real, you know, consequences of his actions.

So that makes sense, right?

Right.

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