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Take One Daf Yomi

Menachot 86, 87, and 88 - Revisiting the Wicked Child

Take One Daf Yomi

Tablet Magazine

Judaism, Religion & Spirituality

4.8565 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

On today’s special Passover episode, we pause our study of Menachot 86, 87, and 88 for an end-of-festival special featuring producer Josh Kross. Since we have spent so many days discussing the "unleavened bread offerings" of these pages, we pivot to an exploration of the "Wicked Child" in the Haggadah. We re-examine the famous question—"What is this ritual to you?"—not as a sneer of exclusion, but as a profound challenge of identity. Through the insights of Rabbi Sari Laufer, we explore how every child at the Seder is already part of the story, proving that even the most difficult questions are a vital spark for spiritual renewal. How can the "wicked" child actually be the deepest seeker at the table? Listen and find out.

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0:00.0

Hey there and welcome back to take one the podcast that brings you just one well wicked good page of Talmud each day.

0:22.3

And I say wicked good because, look, the time is upon us again.

0:26.0

We are about to retreat for the second holiday of Passover, the very tail end of this amazing festival of liberty.

0:34.5

I hope everyone is enjoying.

0:36.5

And so we thought it might be fun having spent

0:39.4

all these days talking about menachot, really could be more apropos unleavened bread offerings,

0:45.6

to give you a little end of Passover special. We aired it a few years back on the unorthodox

0:52.2

podcast, and it's a really touching exploration

0:54.6

in which our own producer, Josh Cross, himself somewhat of a self-styled wicked son,

1:02.0

tries to figure out what is the wickedness of the wicked son all about and how might

1:08.1

our views of it impact our Saders today? Have a listen.

1:15.8

One of my favorite parts of my family's Passover Saders was when we got to the section

1:25.1

with the four children and their questions, which, as far as I read it, is a perfect lesson in how we pass down our traditions.

1:32.3

My grandpa Steve used to lead our satyrs. He was just about my favorite person in the world, and each year he'd make a big show of assigning each of his grandkids one of the four parts to read.

1:43.3

Some families just go in age order,

1:46.3

but he always assigned roles based on personality. There's the wise child who asks about the

1:52.9

meaning behind the laws and traditions we are commanded to follow. This one went to my cousin Lindsay,

1:58.4

because frankly, she's the smartest of his grandchildren.

2:01.6

There's the simple one who asks what it is that we do on Passover.

2:06.6

This generally went to my sister.

2:08.6

She's not simple, but she usually wound up with this one because it was the only one left by the time he got to her.

2:14.6

Now, there were only three of us grandchildren, so the role of the child who doesn't

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