Hey there and welcome back to Take One, the podcast that brings you just one

well done page of Talmud each day, or maybe I should say rare page of Talmud each day, because today's pages, Menachot 56 and 57, continue a fascinating discussion about how to roast meat.

Well, not exactly.

The rabbis are talking about what happens if the Mincha offering becomes levant.

It was offered matzah style and it wasn't permitted to rise and become Khmerz.

And from there, they digress naturally into a host of different discussions about food preparation,

including this nugget, which I will present in full before discussing. Behold,

Rabbi Bah-Baghana says that Rabbi Yohann says, in the case of one who placed meat on top

of coals on Shabbat, if he subsequently turned over the meat, he is liable for cooking on Shabbat.

And if he did not turn over the meat, he is exempt. The Gammar asks,

what are the circumstances of this case? This is weird. If we say that this was a situation where

if he does not turn over the meat, it would not cook, then it is obvious that if he does not turn it

over, he is exempt. Rather, it must be referring to a case where that if he does not turn it over, he is exempt.

Rather, it must be referring to a case where even if he does not turn over the meat,

it would nevertheless cook.

But if so, why isn't he liable for merely placing the meat on the coals,

despite the fact that he did not turn it over?

The Gamara answers, no, it is necessary to state this halakha in a case where if he does not turn over the meat, it would cook on one side

only partially, roughly one-third of the ordinary process of cooking, like the food of Ben-Dorosai.

And now that he turns it over, it cooks on both sides like the food of Ben Der Osai.

And Rabbi Yohanan teaches us that any meat roasted on only one side like the food of Ben der Osai is nothing, i.e., this is not a violation of the prohibited labor of cooking on Shabbat.

If it was roasted on both sides like the food ofoh-Sai, this is classified as cooking,

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