Hey, say some names. Welcome back to 30 minutes with the Perrys. It's been a while.

It's been a minute. It's been a couple months. Yeah, man. We've been doing a lot of things.

A whole lot of things. But we're here. Not testosterone here on this episode. It's Preston

Perry. He's a man. And then we have another man. Hey, his name is Ezekiel. Yes, ma'am.

So I'm sitting on the corner like, you know, what's the people that be interviewing people?

Like Leno and Audem people. Jay Leno. Yeah, Audem. Yeah. I'm sitting on the corner because I'm

an interview y'all, right? Because I'm not male. I just want to talk through just masculinity,

fatherhood, manhood, Kevin Samuels, whoever. R.P.

He's just debatable. But yo, I'm just saying everybody goes heaven. We don't know Universalist.

But in God's great kindness, he is able to redeem anybody. He is. Anywho. So what is,

what is on y'all's heart as it relates to men masculinity? I'll just, I'll make the umbrella very

wide. What is on your heart? You want to go first? I just want to say, man, I think it's really

important that we're having this conversation. I think from afar, a lot of people look into

the lives of Preston. They look into my life and see our families and see us thriving. And then

we are thriving. I'm not going to put our quotations on that. We're thriving. We love our wives.

And, you know, we have our struggles. But whatever the case may be from the outside,

looking at it seems like it's easy. Seems like we, we understand it. I think for the most part,

we're figuring it out. Yeah. However, I think it's really important that we put our ears to the

heartbeat of the culture, to the men, to the women and understand what's actually happening right now

because I feel like there's extreme attacks happening. And the more we disconnect and find comfort

in the nucleus of our families and in our marriages and with our kids, we'll be more disconnected

from what God is calling us to. And I believe he's calling us to his kingdom to build specifically

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