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Hey I'm Trey Wingo. And I'm Kevin Frazier.

We're teaming up on a new weekly sports podcast called alternate routes.

Each week on alternate routes, we leap into the sports multiverse where we pry open the sliding doors of a different

what if moment in sports.

Listen to alternate routes on the Wondery app or wherever you get your park.

You're listening to the Menin' Blazers media network, Suboptimal Radio.

Welcome to a Menin blazers pod special, the latest in our series This Week in Wrexham.

A conversation with that humanian International Jacob Mende.

We'll get to all of that in just one second, but before we do, I want to give a shout out to Stoke Cold Brew Coffee, the incredible

team there who've made this entire series possible, the work they've allowed us to do to bring

you interviews from this club

straight from their home stadium the Stoke High Rass. Oh a stadium is so beautiful

it's named after the Col cold boot coffee that I love. We've

interviewed Rob Mackelhenney, Phil Parkinson, Paul Mullen, Elliot Lee and

more all of them are located in our pod feed check them out not only am I now 84%

proudly made of stoke cold-brew coffee myself but this is a brand that's investing in football with joy and wonder,

which is the way they approach life in general.

I think the same way we like to think we do with an appreciation for moments big and moments small all of it is quite

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