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Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, host of Wondries Business Movers. In our latest series, Phil Knight bets the future of his little known shoe company, Blue Ribbon Sports, on a big move, creating his own in-house brand.

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This is Rebecca Lo or Rebecca Loire, if you listen to suboptimal radio and you are listening to men and blazers on the NBC Sports Network.

It's unbelievable!

From the crap boardroom in the crap basement of a not-so-crap hotel in Liverpool, England, Raj, the many blazers podcast, we back!

We are like Claudio Bravo, not that good. Poor Claudio Bravo, bless. But we're podding from Liverpool, city of, Raj, my birth.

Yes, the Baltimore of England, sort of. And it is a magical place. It's really what I want you to say, David, because to me, we've been reminded of that today.

It's a place where football is like earth, water, fire, and pie, a basic element. It is everywhere here.

Part of it are magical. It's interesting you mentioned the elements, because I was thinking today that, particularly from a footballing point of view, it's like everything is so compressed here, these two clubs just across Stanley Park.

It's kind of like the way that diamonds are made because of the enormous pressure from the earth's crust, forces these beautiful things to be made.

It must be some darkness underground where diamonds are forged, Raj, and I imagine that's the same in Liverpool. But there is a unique beauty around the passion for football in this city.

Last night, my brother Nidej, a red, emailed me, loved your night. And he said, I don't want you to go out into town and try and find wherever Liverpool is staying and set off their fire log.

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