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This is Rebecca Loew or Rebecca Loewa if you listen to suboptimal radio and you are listening to Men in Blazers on the NBC Sports Network.

From the Embassy Row studios in the Crap, part of Soho, it's the Men in Blazers podcast, Rodge.

There's a little bit of construction going on in the background.

In the Crap part of Soho, they're trying to make the Crap part of Soho even crapper.

Oh, maybe a little less crapper. There's a bit of a gentrification going on in the Crap part of Soho.

There is a man on a platform just below Davos Windau with a very wine. It sounds like we're at the dentist in the background.

I think it could be 12 men.

Dave, they wanted me, will let me poor burning oil in the medieval fashion upon it through a murder hole.

I never said you couldn't do it. I just pointed out that our windows don't open.

I always find that terrifying when you get to castles and they always point to the murder holes.

The murders for which they use the old oil.

Terrifying. I think that you don't live in those days, Dave.

I like catapults. I like the idea of those medieval catapults that would throw sort of the boulders of burning oil over the fortresses.

You had to be proper hard to fight in those battles. I think a lot about being besieged.

I often think about what I'm saying. You know what they used to do? I read about the cossacks.

I read about this recently. They were often fly over the castle walls by catapult.

Disease cows that were dead. So that disease would take hold in that.

You're in it for the long term. You're a strategy. You are. You're thinking long game.

You really don't like these people. And you're sure that your children won't like these people.

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