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This is Roch and welcome back to European nights presented by Paramount Plus Double P, the show where we revel in the stories behind European football like Augustus Gloupit in a chocolate river.

As always, I'm joined by the Gen 2 can help us to navigate the complex hedge maces of the Champions League, Europa League and the big one, Conference League.

He's football's great arborist and my mate is New York Times chief soccer correspondent Rory Smith. Where you off to this week, Rory?

I'm making the lawn exotic and frankly, sunny trip to Manchester first where it will be. I don't know whether this is the same in the States, but it's freezing in England at the moment.

We had a week of spring and then it changed its mind. So it's horrible, the weather. And then I'm going to London. I'm braving the British Transport Network to do on C Chelsea next round with Ryd.

Two very different worlds and next week I know you're going back to back in Madrid and we've put a lot to get through. We've made it somehow Rory through another international break.

USA back baby in the World Cup, bad news though, after the draw. You and I can't be as chummy. We are now mortal enemies.

As a result of the World Cup draw that predictably thanks to Hot Balls, put England and the United States together in Group B. And we've talked a lot about the draw from the American perspective.

I'd love for you to give us a sense of how the English media have reacted to the Group B thing. We've seen the tabloid headlines, Yankee Doddle, Dandy.

But there does seem to be much more English interest in the possibility of Wales or Scotland getting through and having to drink off or playing around the US almost seem like an afterthought.

Yeah, a little bit. I think that there is a sense that the US were one of the easier options in the second pot of seeds that on the BBC before the draw was made.

They kind of ran through the best and worst case scenarios for England. And the United States was in one of them. I won't specify where.

That's the diplomat in Rurie Smith speaking.

I think I think this is harsh and I think there will be knowing the English media and the English.

There will be like a moment before they play the US when they think, Oh, Hanan, they've got Christian Pulasik and Georena and Tyler Adams and Western McKenny and they all play for teams we've heard of.

And therefore they must be good. Oh, Hanan actually, yeah, they are really good. They've all played in the Champions League a lot.

This won't be easy. England are confident that they're confident they'll win the group and I think they're probably right to be confident they'll win the group.

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