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From the Men in Blazers studios and the crap part of Bedford and the crap part of the South Fork of Long Island is the Men in Blazers podcast, Roch.

We back! Like Josh Burrows and I want to be candid. I am in levels of internal pain and agony. No, no, only probably to Brett Mayer, but enough about me, David.

How are you doing? I feel like you say no, no, only to Brett Mayer. I feel like there are maybe nine or ten humans on earth who understand the levels of pain you go through.

And it's the humans that spend the most time with you. You know, this is B, number one. Your parents probably, Val, who birthed you, your family, your kids.

I think I'm up there in terms of understanding your levels of pain because you bring most of your pain. You express, as we've said before, football gives us the ability to express emotions. We wouldn't otherwise express.

You express most of your pain. I mean, thank God through football, it allows you to experience these emotions. You experience these emotions on the podcast.

I'm just looking at your face right now. This is, this is on a scale of zero to ten. This is minus 11 today, minus 11,000 maybe.

Yeah, if you don't know, as we listen to this, seconds before we fired up the old pod microphones, Frank Lampard was fired as Everton manager, we will go deep on this.

I think it's generous calling it a situation. I'm not even sure if it is a situation or a capitulation or whatever kind of nation needs to call it.

He's the expert on the word situation. We are, we are going to get into it deeper into the podcast, but I'm kind of reeling partially because of the news, which is quite belated.

Paul Frank, nice man, lovely man. I mean, what an agony it's been watching him in agony with the club in agony where the club in civil war, honestly, over the past two months with the most inept board in world football.

But I'm also in pink as David just laughed at who he recommends the Everton board who he imagines the Everton board are chasing at the moment. Do you do, David?

I think it's a trio, Roger. It's Greg Berhalter, but it's the only one a package deal. It's a package deal with Claudia Rainier and Danielle Rainer as well.

And I feel like when there's a place for Ronaldo in there somewhere, perhaps running HR community relations, something.

I think Brian McBride back. I do think when you made that joke, this be for level of joke in it. And then there's a level of God, it is not beyond the ineptitude of the Everton board to be like, that's the kind of tone, the kind of chaos we want to so here in Everton.

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