Men for Menopause with Jesse Robertson

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness

Kim Holderness

Holderness Podcast, Self-improvement, Parenting, 40s, Laugh Line, Gen X, Penn Holderness, Laugh Lines, The Laugh Line, 50s, Kim Holderness, Aging, Getting Older, Humor, The Holderness Family, Marriage, Education

4.9 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

What do you get when a man hears a podcast, has an epiphany in his garage, and decides to educate millions of guys on TikTok about menopause? You get Jesse Robertson (the creator behind Husbands for Menopause) and one of our favorite conversations ever.

This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit down with Jesse to talk about how he started spiraling (in a good way!) into understanding menopause, better supporting his wife, and educating millions of men. Our conversation digs into why men absolutely need to be part of the menopause conversation, how to have more empathy for your spouse, and effective ways to communicate. We even brainstorm the very first Menopause Men’s Choir (which is exactly as chaotic and delightful as it sounds) and laugh our way through “banana wrapper” moments that happen when your perimenopause brain cannot find the words.

Enjoy the conversation, share this episode to your husband! Jesse believes with better understanding men can be more supportive—and after this episode, you’ll believe it too. We love to hear from you, leave us a message at 323-364-3929 or write the show at podcast@theholdernessfamily.com. You can also watch our podcast on YouTube.

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Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness is an evolution of The Holderness Family Podcast, which began in 2018. Kim and Penn Holderness are award-winning online content creators known for their original music, song parodies, comedy sketches, and weekly podcasts. Their videos have resulted in over two billion views and over nine million followers since 2013. Penn and Kim are also authors of the New York Times Bestselling Books, ADHD Is Awesome: A Guide To (Mostly) Thriving With ADHD and All You Can Be With ADHD. They were also winners on The Amazing Race (Season 33) on CBS.

Laugh Lines is hosted and executive produced by Kim Holderness and Penn Holderness, with original music by Penn Holderness. Laugh Lines is also written and produced by Ann Marie Taepke, and edited and produced by Sam Allen. It is hosted by Acast. Thanks for listening!

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0:00.0	Hello, perimenopause. Yeah, your husbands, they still love you, but they don't know the cause.
0:07.2	I struggle finishing actual sentences. Yeah. It is really hard. It really begins with listening to and
0:15.1	believing your wife. I don't think that that's happening. And thank you to Jesse. Like, we are all
0:19.3	less dumb. Thanks to you today,
0:22.0	especially the dudes. Yeah, we get older every day. Got more wrinkles. That's okay. Yeah,
0:27.8	we're laughing when we age. Life is like a comedy stage. And that's what we got laugh lines.
0:38.3	Hey, everybody. I'm Kim Holderness.
0:40.7	And I'm Penn Holderness. Welcome to Laughlines.
0:43.5	Laughlines is a podcast where we really celebrate the aging process. Aging is awesome,
0:49.3	except when it really sucks.
0:51.3	Yeah.
0:52.3	Then it sucks.
0:53.3	Hey, if you remember sitting in front of your TV and watching Friday night videos, you're home. Funny question. Penn does not remember that. When I wrote that in there, he's like, what are Friday night videos? Am I on the wrong show all of a sudden? You are. You don't remember what you, because I think maybe it was MTV or maybe it was like NBC. See, there was a network that played. That's when you saw all the music videos.
1:13.8	And it was MTV or maybe it was like NBC. There was a network that played. That's when you saw all the music videos. And it was called Friday Night Videos. Yes. Amory Tapki is with us as our fill-in producer, as Sam Allen is not here. She's on her computer right now. She's doing the, she's doing the Lord's work. She's doing some research. Friday Night videos existed. I'm not, I'm not gaslighting you. Am I? No, you're not gaslighting. It actually has a
1:32.6	really cool logo that we're going to put on for our YouTube listeners. And when did it air in what,
1:37.5	like what network? So Friday Night Videos was a variety program that aired from July, 1983,
1:42.7	to May 2002 on NBC.
1:45.9	NBC.
1:47.3	Okay.
1:47.6	In 2002, wow.
1:50.1	Yeah.
1:50.6	No, it was, I feel like it was a network
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