Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia. My name is Jody Avergan.

As you likely know, it is Memory Palace Week here at this day, our fellow Radiotopia host, Nate DeMaio, has been with us all week to talk about some of these stories in the new

Memory Palace book, which is available for order now. So yes, a celebration of Nate's great

new book of short historical stories, but also a celebration of Radiotopia as we kick off

the Radiotopia fundraiser. Hint, hint, hint, listeners, go support independent podcasting now.

Thanks to all of you who have chipped in this fundraiser so far., hint, hint, listeners. Go support independent podcasting now. Thanks to all of you

who have chipped in this fundraiser so far. But listen, today I thought we could do a little bit of a

step back and look at the art of history storytelling. If that doesn't sound too pretentious,

Nate is really, really good at it and does it very differently from the way we do it here on

the show. The Memory

Palace is beautifully written and scored with music. Ours is, of course, a chat show, a conversation

show, but I know that all four of us think a lot about why history matters and how best to

bring history to life. And so that is what we will talk about today. First, as always, hello

to my co-host, brilliant history

teachers and authors and communicators in their own right, Nicole Hammer of Vanderbilt

and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wellesley. Hello there. Hello, Jody. Hey there. And yes, Nate

de Mayo of the Memory Palace is here. Welcome back for a third and final time this week.

Delighted to be here. I just have to say one thing before we get going about the Memory Palace itself.

And Nate, I think I've told you this, but I often find that when you ask people, like, what is your favorite podcast?

People, like, rattle off a few names and hear a bunch of different things.

And people are like, oh, yeah, I like this.

I've been listening to this.

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