Memorial Weekend Special: The Oath and the Office (with ACLU’s Cecillia Wang)
The John Fugelsang Podcast
Crossover Media Group
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 May 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang begin with the new redistricting wars, as southern states move to dilute Black Americans’ voting power after a green light from the Supreme Court. They look at Tennessee, Alabama, and the Virginia Supreme Court’s decision striking down a voting plan approved by voters.
Then, they turn to citizenship itself: DOJ support for stripping citizenship from naturalized citizens and Trump’s attacks on his own Supreme Court justices.
Corey then speaks with Cecilia Wang, National Legal Director of the ACLU, who argued before the Supreme Court against Trump’s executive order attacking birthright citizenship, with Trump himself watching from the courtroom. Wang explains why the text and history of the Fourteenth Amendment are on her side, how Reconstruction transformed the Constitution, and why the fight over citizenship is part of the larger battle for voting rights, civil liberties, and democracy itself.
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| 1:02.6 | This is the John Fuglesang podcast. |
| 1:09.4 | Hey, welcome to the Fuglesang podcast, Daywalkers. I hope you had a wonderful holidays, and I'm |
| 1:15.8 | looking forward to experiencing whatever the next year brings. For this episode, we wanted to |
| 1:21.6 | bring you a special treat. This is that other podcast I do, the Oath and the Office. You see, |
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