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Endless Thread

MEMES, Pt. 6: Call me... The Punisher

Endless Thread

WBUR

Reddit, Technology

4.22.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

The Punisher has always been a complicated Marvel antihero: a man whose creator imagined him as a reaction to the failures of government at home and in the Vietnam War. So why is the Punisher’s trademark dripping skull insignia — a menacing image used throughout history to denote imminent death — being painted on police vehicles, adopted by members of the military, and donned by white supremacists?

We tell the story of The Punisher’s symbol as a meme, look at how well we understand its origins, its use today, and whether its creator — or Marvel — can take it back.

Transcript

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0:06.1

that have gone missing, all told by tenacious public radio storytellers who refuse to let

0:11.5

mysteries go unsolved.

0:13.7

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0:16.2

Follow last scene wherever you listen to podcasts.

0:19.6

Produced by the I-Lab at WBWR Boston.

0:27.6

Some origin stories kick off with radioactive spider bites or alien planets.

0:33.3

And some begin with good old fashioned bloodshed.

0:37.8

If society won't punish, the guilty, he will.

0:47.4

He was a Vietnam vet, you know, an honorable soldier.

0:53.0

And he had a family.

0:55.0

I can't believe he is.

0:57.8

I'm old.

0:58.8

His family was killed in crossfire in Amatia, shootout in central park.

1:04.2

Get down, get down.

1:09.7

And when the police weren't able to bring the criminals to justice, he went and took the

1:16.8

law into his own hands.

1:20.6

This is not vengeance.

1:22.9

Your vengeance is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response.

1:26.7

No, not vengeance.

1:32.0

Punishment.

1:33.0

You don't have to kill me, Ovinous.

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