Hey, clutterbugs. Welcome back to the clutterbug podcast. I'm really geeked about today's

interview. I'm fan-girling just a little bit. Today we have Melissa Maker from Clean My Space,

and she's the queen of clean. Let's be honest, the queen of clean. She has, of course, over two

million subscribers on YouTube, an incredible website full of so much information.

She also founded a microfiber cleaning company called Makers Clean, and she's the author of Clean

My Space, the secret to cleaning better faster and loving your home every day. And I just learned,

I'm very surprised that she actually doesn't love cleaning. So maybe not a naturally organized

or natural clean person. And here she is doing this incredible business. Hello, Melissa, and welcome.

Hi, Cass. It's so nice to be doing this podcast with you. And congrats on all of your success.

Thank you very much. I've been watching you for so long. I love seeing how much you've grown,

and just the world is appreciating your knowledge into this. So I was really surprised.

When you started this, are you saying you didn't love cleaning? Not only am I saying I didn't

love cleaning, I'm saying I still don't love cleaning. It's just it's imprinted in my DNA.

It's just not natural to me. I don't love doing it. I don't get a high, like a natural high from it.

I mean, I love the idea of a clean space. I just don't like the idea of carving out the time,

that taking the time, that doing the work. I'm just like a naturally very lazy person.

This makes me feel so much better. Okay. I'm like a senior cat. Like really that's that's the inside

of me. I'm like a senior cat. And I just want to like be on a chair all day chilling.

Be someone for pair of my meals for me. Yes.

Joe, I mean, truthfully, I love doing things. It's just cleaning is not bring me joy. The act of

cleaning has never brought me joy. So that's why I always have found it to be a struggle. That's

why I decided to start my cleaning business back in 2006. And then Chad, my husband, who I know

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