You always pivot back to, yeah, but the real problems is real.

You're famous for interview style that begins with condemn this group, that group. Let me finish before you keep suggesting I'm supporting October 7, which I have not. Sounds like you're justifying you to me. You know what, can I finish a sentence? Booby traps are not allowed if they are genuinely indiscriminate. You don't think going off on a grocery store is indiscriminate. No, actually.

I'm not playing this game,

because I'm not here to talk about the rules of war.

You say many, all rows lead to the occupation. Yes. Okay. Israel would say all rows lead to Iran. Who cares what Israel says they've lied for the last year? Who cares what they say? I'm curious what you think Israel could do that would pass your tests? Probably not much. I'm as close to it. I'm as close to a pacifist as you can get. Just saying, I want it. I want peace and joy. You sound like Kamala Harris. Well, two seismic issues are dominating the global news agenda. What happens next in each of them will have a profound impact on the state of the world. First, of course, is the forthcoming US presidential election.

The second is the crisis now engulfing the Middle East.

My next guest has striped views on both these big stories.

He's not shy about airing them.

Joining me in the studio is editor and CEO of Zateo News.

Medi, how are you?

Good to see you.

We have never met in person until now.

No, Twitter makes you think we have.

It was great to see you.

Thank you for having me.

Great to meet you.

Always enjoy our debates, which they are.

Let's start with what's happening in the Lebanon.

Because we may find some areas of agreement here, I suspect.

But first of all, Hezbollah, do you see a distinction

between Hezbollah and, say, Hamas?

In what sense?

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