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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Megan Devine: The Howl at the Center of Grief

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2017

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Megan Devine is a mental health counselor who has become known as one of the most promising emerging voices in the field of grief therapy. With Sounds True, she has released the new book It's OK That You're Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn't Understand. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami speaks with Megan about It's OK That You're Not OK and the tragedy that inspired the book—the accidental drowning of her partner. With this in mind, Tami and Megan discuss "the wild howl at the center of grief," the challenge of shouldering things that only we can carry, and why "letting go" is a myth. They also talk about what you can do for someone enduring the grieving process and why it can be best simply to lend an understanding ear. Finally, Megan unravels the concept of "fixing" grief and why there is an intrinsic connection between grieving fully and loving well. (69 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

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At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

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as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, guest is Megan Devine. Megan Devine holds a

0:46.0

master's degree in counseling psychology and has been a clinical mental health

0:51.2

therapist for over 15 years.

0:54.1

Through her many articles and speaking engagements,

0:57.0

she has emerged as a bold new voice

0:59.7

in the world of grief therapy.

1:02.4

Which sounds true, Megan Devine has written a new book called

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It's OK that you're not OK, meeting grief and loss in a culture that doesn't understand, where she

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debunks a culturally prescribed goal of returning to a normal happy life,

1:21.5

replacing it with the skills and tools to help us experience and

1:26.6

witness the pain of loss in ourselves and others, so we may meet our grief, knowing it to be a natural step in the greater

1:37.1

journey of love.

1:39.3

In this episode of Insight's at The Edge, Macon and I spoke about the wild howl at the center of grief that

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will never go away, and her own deep encounter with grief when her partner suddenly died. We also talked about the

1:55.0

challenge of carrying what is ours to carry and the myth of letting go when it comes

2:01.9

to grief. We also talked about essential skills for

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