Megan Devine: Acknowledging Our Grief and Carrying What Can’t Be Fixed

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

When we suffer a serious loss, we come face-to-face with the fragile nature of this world. Yet in today's culture, we often try to avoid or deny the deep emotions associated with losing the people and things we love. In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with therapist and grief consultant Megan Devine about her uniquely helpful books with Sounds True, It's OK That You're Not OK and How to Carry What Can't Be Fixed. Tune in for a much-needed conversation on the best ways to tend one another's pain during periods of loss, as Tami and Megan discuss: the cover-up narrative that "bad things help us grow"; the roots of today's grief phobia; pain vs suffering; grief without a story; the healing power of acknowledgment; tolerating feelings of helplessness; the impulse to fix things; the weaponization of acceptance; time and the notion of complicated grief; the dangers of pathologizing grief; the lost opportunity to reframe grief during the pandemic; naming the awkward instead of silencing yourself; offering concrete assistance rather than an open offer to help; three kinds of hope: transactional, functional, and inhabitable; speaking our truth and allowing others the same; and more. Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0	Hello, friends. My name's Tammy Simon and I'm the founder of Sounds True, and I want to welcome you to the Sounds True podcast, Insights at the Edge.
0:12.0	I also want to take a moment to introduce you to Sounds True's new membership community and digital platform.
0:18.9	It's called Sounds True One.
0:21.7	Sounds True One features original, premium, transformational docu series, community events,
0:29.0	classes to start your day and relax in the evening, special weekly live shows,
0:36.0	including a video version of Insights at the Edge with an after-show
0:41.3	community question and answer session with featured guests. I hope you'll come join us, explore,
0:48.6	come have fun with us, and connect with others. You can learn more at join.soundstrue.com.
0:56.4	I also want to take a moment and introduce you to the Sounds True Foundation,
1:00.4	our nonprofit that creates equitable access to transformational tools and teachings.
1:08.6	You can learn more at SoundsTrueFoundation.org.
1:12.5	And in advance, thank you for your support.
1:16.6	In this episode of Insights at the Edge, my guest is Megan Devine.
1:21.3	Megan Devine is a psychotherapist and a best-selling author recognized as one of today's
1:27.1	most insightful and original voices on grief,
1:31.5	from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don't even call grief.
1:38.1	She's the author of the best-selling book on grief in over a decade.
1:43.3	It's called It's Okay That You're Not Okay. It's sold over half a million copies since it was published, I'm proud to say by Sounds True, in 2017. And it's been translated into more than 25 languages. And just to tell you a story about this book that I think is illustrative of its power to reach out to people who are grieving.
2:08.6	Someone that I'm close to came to visit sounds true, our offices back in 2017, and they had recently suffered a devastating loss in their life, but I wasn't
2:20.3	sure which of our many books would really speak to them. And I said, you know, there's
2:24.3	a shelf over there with all the books we've published to date, several copies of each,
2:28.3	please go ahead and choose whatever you want. And this was the one book that they picked off the shelf and they said,
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